Why are people wearing turbans allowed to not wear a motorcycle helmet ?

Question

Why are people wearing turbans allowed to not wear a motorcycle helmet ?

Answer 1

Because there are no companies that are prepared to manufacture crash helmets to fit over turbans!

I wear a "Hoodie", sometimes, I have had it for years, and I'm almost 60, does that make me fashionable?

Will I be slung out of Blue Water,or will they allow it , because I'm an " Old Geezer"? I do not commit criminal damage,spray graffiti, or hang around street corners!

So why must people who wear Hoodies all be categorised as up to no good?

Answer 2

i don't think you are being racist & its not a stupid question.

the reason that sikhs are allowed to ride a motorbike wearing only a turban was cos a man was stopped in leicester riding as such when taken to court his defence was that it was his religion to wear his turban.

it does smack of double standards doesnt it? after all i cant work for british airways wearing a crucifiction, if i go to visit a friend of mine in prison i have to have a clear photo taken of my face before being allowed in, yet once in theres several women (at least i think they're women) with veils covering their faces. how is that allowed? does that mean that im a security risk & they arent?

how come i was made to get a photo licence with a clear pic of me yet they are allowed to have a licence that could be anybody?

how long does this list have to be before someone gets so sick of it all & does something about it?

Answer 3

In the 60s lots of establishments banned long hair or skinheads. Its just an overreaction to youth culture by people who don't get it. Its not actually items of clothing or haircuts that cause the problems, its the social environment we have created for our kids to grow up in.

As for the turbans, they should make fuckoff big helmets that go over the turban. Actually, helmets shouldn't have to be compulsory. If you've got an ounce of sense you'll wear one, If you fancy spreading your brains up and down the road, you won't. It should be your choice.

Answer 4

This arguement has been going on the UK for years now. It started when a judge ruled they could wear turbans and not helmets due to their religion, BUT....... if we don't wear helmets, WE are the ones who are prosecuted. IT IS OUR LAW that states helmets MUST be worn, so when these people come over here, why can't they obey our laws??? We'd have to comply if we went to live elsewhere. As the saying goes.......When in Rome.............!

Answer 5

the main point of the turbans. the answer is simple, it was proved scientifically years ago (or at least i seem to recal seeing something on TV about it) that said turbans can provide better protection than a standard shop bought motor cycle helmet.

as for hoodies, the only reason to ban them is because they make the wearer look stupid and up to no good. may be a stereo type but first impressions count, and if you look like you have something to hide or look like a crook then people will treat you like one.

as for head scalfs and turbans for that matter it is a religious choice. and everyone has the right to follow what religion they choose.

personally i do not follow any organised form of religion. but to ban or try and stop people from wearing clothes on religious grounds should be outlawed.

by that i mean everyone has the right to wear what they like when they like; even those who want to wear hoodies and look like criminals. they have the right to wear what they like.

the problems arise when people try to force their will on others. banning hoodies from clubs and pubs wi9thout good reason besides the way they are dressed should again be outlawed. however any business has the right to stop persons entering there premises for any reason they choose, however in the cse of hoodies they are only in many cases banned because the owner has CCTV in their building and they want to be able to see everyones face to try to minimise the public liability insurance they have to pay. or so i'm told. likewise for anything that covers the face, a building owner could request that someone remove anything that covers the face, but that is as far as i think it should go. if someone refuse on religious grounds then they should be offered the choice to enter anyway but agree to be monitored more closely by such means as to take a photo and finger prints, before the person enters the building. this could be put on a member card so that the person only need to show the card eachg time they enter a building and show that the face matches the picture on the card. (just my opinion) infact why discriminate in that manner, probvide everyone with photo ID and then they can come and go as they please. if you take a biometric reading such as a fingerprint or retina scan then anyone who feels discriminated against by having to show their face when they may not want to for what ever reason, could easily log in to the building (pub, club wherever) without having to show the face at all. it is just modern life. if there were no thieves about then hoodies need not be band by companies, individuals etc. nor would we have this discussion on identity points raised in my answer.



these are strictly my point of view and are limited to the scoope of the question.



but anyone with nothing to fear would have nothing to fear from a biometric Identity card. only thieves etc would be complaining. in my opinion. and it is not a breach of your human rights to carry an ID card. it is or would be if you were asked to show it to anyone who wanted to see it such as law enforcement for no good reason. but what about the rights of others who may own or run businesses and who may want to safeguard the propertiy and safety of there clients/ customers, they have the right to do what ever it takes to achieve that goal (in my opinion).

anyone who had a problem with not showing an ID to an organisation or business would have the option not to enter that building or show the id. no middle ground.

Answer 6

Some shopping precincts in the UK have banned people wearing `hoodies` in the shopping areas, this is they claim so that it is easier for them to identify any one who steals from them. Apparently in the past the thieves have pulled their hoods over their faces and run away !

As far as wearing a turban is concerned, I understand that Sheiks do not remove their turbans in public, and one assumes that there is not a crash helmet large enough to go over their head and turban. My thoughts on that... If for any reason someone cannot conform to the law, then they should not be riding a motor cycle. However any fool who rides a motor cycle without a crash helmet, can`t have much brain anyway! Even pedal cyclists should wear head protection. I don`t want to get into the old `one rule for them and one for us` argument, it is a waste of time. If people insist in putting their lives in danger then let them. It is the people who have to `patch them up` that I feel sorry for.

Answer 7

is not right ,yuo had to have the helmet,they can get a ticket,is not right

Answer 8

I see your point. Laws should be applicable to all, regardless of race, creed, religion, sexuality or whatever.

EPC got it spot on when he said that wearing a lid should not be compulsory. That way, the Sikhs are pacified and anyone else who neglects to wear one does so at their own peril.



Indycindyo: I think you are confusing Sikhs with extremist Muslims, my dear.



Stokie(s): You've hit the nail on the head. How can 'blackboard' be deemed offensive but 'whiteboard' not? I never understood that. And as for the English/Literacy thing? I'd never even heard of that one, but it is ironic that most school leavers in these politically correct times are, in fact, illiterate!

Answer 9

i dont remember exactly why but on only fools and horse del boy tied a long scarf on the OUTSIDE!! of the helmet and tucked it inside to contact the skin!!!comedy genius

Answer 10

it certainly wont get taken the wrong way by me,people are banned from wearing their hoods in my local shopping centre,but i see women from other cultures walking around only showing their eyes.in post offices and shops,all motorcycle helmets,hats etc are to be removed,well why dont the muslims etc have to show their face.why,when i went to school,as a girl,i wasnt allowed to wear trousers,but asian girls etc,were allowed to wear trousers AND a skirt(us english girls were freezing).why cant my children use the word blackboard at school anymore?its called a white board? why dont they have English lessons? its now called literacy.oh believe me i could go on,but i'll most probably get my answer removed anyway due to making a racial comment.its our country,i've had my say!(not all of it,i must add)!!!!!11

Answer 11

Could you provide some details, please? Where exactly are people allowed to wear turbans instead of DOT motorcycle helmets? Is there a helmet law?

Who is banning 'hoodies"? A school? Local government?



if we do not know the context, then we will not be able to provide solid answers.



Thanks for the update. It looks like schools and shopping malls are banning hoodies because they fear that young people may use the hood to avoid security cameras. I would say that if a turban obscured the face, that it would have to be removed as well, but really it is the same as not being able to wear a halloween mask at the bank.

The Brits have made an exception to their helmet law provding that sikhs do not have to wear helmets if he is wearing a turban. The brits value that person's religious rights over the regulation for safety.

there is also a construction hard hat law that I found interesting: S11 of the Employment Act 1989 exempts turban-wearing Sikhs from any requirements to wear safety helmets on a construction site. Where a turban-wearing Sikh is injured on a construction site liability for injuries is restricted to the injuries that would have been sustained if the Sikh had been wearing a safety helmet.



So the Sikh does not have to wear a helmet, but if he gets injured due to not wearing a helmet then the company he works for is not liable. I would say that was fair.



If the turban thing bothers you, just take comfort in the fact that your melon is a lot safer than the turbaned one in the event of a crash. If you absolutely MUST wear a hoodie, then do not shop at the retailers that prohibit them- vote with your money.



If it is a school thing, then get a turban and tell everyone that it is a sincerely cherished religious belief. What can they say? Some schools may only ban wearing the hood while on the premises, so check with the dean.



Dont let it bother you.

Answer 12

I know the turban can be seen as a sort of religious piece of lothing, but I've always found this law somwhat stupid.



A crash helmet is designed, obviously, to protect from head injury in a crash, and most of us have to do this by law for a reason. If you are a Sikh, and you have a crash wth nothing but your turban for protection... it's not going to be much good, is it?



It may not be totally practical, having to remove a turban all the time, but it's that... or your life I suppose. Good job Richard Hammond isn't a sikh I guess...



Now I am NOT racist. I am not against anyone folowing X religion, and people should wear whatever they want normally in my view, but common sense should come first, especially so if the rest of us must do so.

Answer 13

I think your question is perfectly reasonable and may be those individuals that are bothered by it shouldn't answer.

Any way back to your question, it is because it is religious clothing that has to be worn as part of their faith and by putting a helmet on top of the turban wouldn't make the person any safer as the turban is already protecting the head.

As for hoodies they aren't religious items of clothing just fashion and some people wear them so that they conceal the face and then go on to commit offences. Take note I said some people not all hoody wearers.

Answer 14

I am not aware of any such laws here in the U.S. that allow people with turbans to not wear helmets. Here in my state Texas we do have a helmet law, but most people think we do not. If you take the motorcycle riders safety course and or carry $50,000 insurance and buy a sticker , then you can ride without one.



I don't bother, I had my first wreak in 37 years of riding daily last June and I can honestly say that my helmet saved my life. I landed on my face and broke it all up I was in the hospital 23 hours and the cost was $40,000 .



My advise is to just wear one. I had a Small skid lid that was barely legal, but it still saved my life.

Answer 15

Well to wear a turban, how are you supposed to fit a motorcycle helmet over the top?? i didn't know it was illegal but it does make sense, a helmet it supposed to be placed on your head, not over the top of a turban, it just wouldn't fit right and you'd have more chance of an accident.

Answer 16

Unless their turban is D.O.T. approved, they will be ticketed in California. Since there is no helmet law in Arizona, they can wear their turban without worry. In what state do you reside that apparently has a helmet law and provides an exemption for turbans?

Answer 17

the turbans is the religious thing for the Punjabi's. they wear it because of the significance of it's religion. and first point sometimes their turbans are so big that the helmet wont fit. and because of the first amendment its freedom of religion.

Answer 18

if wearing hoodies was part of your religion, you would be allowed to. if they told sikhs to wear a helmet, they would have to take a turban off, and that's like making them give up part of their religion. that would be discrimination against religion.

Answer 19

I hadn't heard of banding hoodies, for what, under what guidelines would a hoodie be unlawful......I guess we will have to include hoddies into our religions to continue to wear them.....But I will say this America always seems to be more sympathetic to other cultures and there norms....but when it comes to there own, there always seems to be a new controversy.....

Answer 20

Turbans are surely a type of helmet - What is the real point of your question?

Answer 21

No because we need to know when they are coming. They could have a bomb strapped on and be driving their motorcycle hellbound into something to blow it up. Sorry, but they brought that image on themselves.

Answer 22

What a stupid Question

Answer 23

I don't know,but it is a good idea.