Question:
Yesterday, I was talking to this girl that had parents from the Ukraine...?
линн(:
2009-04-02 17:35:08 UTC
I was talking to the girl yesterday that was either from the Ukraine, or had parents from the Ukraine.
I've seen shows were people have been from the Ukraine, but I've never given it a second thought as to why they would leave.


What could be some reasons?
Six answers:
kitkat
2009-04-04 13:31:20 UTC
My ancestors came from western Ukraine.



Ukraine is a beautiful country, with rich soils and other natural resources that have coveted by many. Over the centuries, Ukraine has been fought over many times, by many armies. Oftentimes, Ukraine has veritably been a war zone. A war zone is rarely anyone’s first choice as a good, safe place to live.



I don't know when your friend's parents left the Ukraine, so I'll give you some western Ukrainian history in a nutshell:



Between 1387-1772, western Ukraine was under Polish occupation (while the east was held by Lithuania); in 1773, western Ukraine was turned over to the Austrians; during the winter of 1914-1915, the Tsarist Russian army occupied western Ukraine until the Austrians recaptured it; after World War I (1918) and the Russian Revolution (1917) had shattered the Austrian Empire, Ukraine had a brief glimmer of independence; in 1919, Poland took western Ukraine again; in 1920, the Soviet Red Army took western Ukraine, but allowed the Poles to continue ruling it; (in EASTERN Ukraine, the Soviet government deliberately starved millions of Ukrainians to death whilst it sold the grain they produced to other nations - see "Sources" below); in 1939, Germany invaded Poland and started World War II. From the first day of the war Ukrainians suffered because German bombs killed many Ukrainian civilians in Poland, and killed many Ukrainian boys/men forced to serve in the Polish army; later in 1939, the Russian Red Army invaded and occupied western Ukraine, and still later in 1939, western Ukraine was incorporated into the USSR.



Whilst Ukraine was ruled by Poles, Austrians and Soviets, the Ukrainian citizens were treated more or less like second class citizens. Between 1939 and 1991, the Soviet “iron curtain” prevented the citizens from leaving. Food was rationed. Mail was censored, too (e.g., lots of information was either confiscated or blacked out with thick black marker). Living inside the "iron curtain" was less than pleasant. I can certainly understand why someone might want to leave the first chance they get.



Ever since 1991, the Ukrainians have had self government, but those governments have left a lot to be desired. All those many years of Soviet occupation left a lot of damage that is very expensive to repair. For example, visitors in most of the better hotels in the Ukrainian city of Lviv usually have electricity and running water 24/7, but the citizens of Lviv suffer regular black-outs and water rationing. Basically, the living standard aren’t as good as in North America, etc. Although running water and electricity 24/7 isn't everything, I can certainly understand how someone might want to leave Ukraine, even now that it has independence. Besides, there's always the threat that their independence could be lost in the future, in yet another war.



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HERE'S AN IDEA: Why don't you ask your friend why her parents left the Ukraine? She'd probably have a better idea than anyone on "Answers", and she'd probably want to tell you.



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P.S. Your “Additional Details" don’t make sense. Of the answers you received so far, I don’t see where anyone was being a "jerk". Perhaps the “jerk” deleted his or her answer.
Kevin
2009-04-03 07:36:54 UTC
First, it is "Ukraine", not "the Ukraine".



People leave/left Ukraine for a variety of reasons, but mostly because of the poor conditions there, and a hope for a better life in another country.



The politicians have never had the people's best interests at heart (and it's gotten worse after the fall of the USSR).



Inflation is rampant, salaries are low, unemployment is high, abuse of women is high, safety for children is always a concern (even eating lunch at school can be dangerous). Utility costs are high.



People often have to work 3 jobs, live in extended families, just to make ends meet. My mother-in-law earns $300 per month working full time as a high level government employee - and her basic utilities cost her 1/2 her salary, and food costs (on average) the same it does in the USA. My wife has a friend who works as a doctor full time, and then at a private pharmacy (full time), to earn $400/mo - compare that to your family doctor who charges your insurance $260 for a 15 minute visit.



No matter the time, or the reasons, it always comes back to the same reason people have left for Western countries for ages- simply for a better life.
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2016-09-11 10:22:57 UTC
Tragic, no longer the primary tale like this I've heard. But luckily for Ukraine, this doesn't constitute the bulk. I'd allow Ukraine and Turkey become a member of the EU. I'd additionally like to peer all EU international locations and abilities EU international locations outlaw this barbarism.
Steven
2009-04-02 18:23:46 UTC
When I lived in the Los Angeles area, mostly the Ukrainian ppl that I knew were Jewish and they left the Ukraine because they didn't have freedom of religion in the Ukraine. They said the Jewish kidz were bullied around in the schoolyards, sometimes beaten badly, and many times Jewish homes and cemetaries were vandalized. The ppl left the Ukraine for a better life here in America!
Anon
2009-04-02 18:25:26 UTC
Many people fled the Ukraine during the period it was under Soviet rule. After the fall of the Soviet Union many people migrated to the West in search of a safer more secure life and higher living standards. The average Ukrainian is as poor as the average Peruvian or Jamaican.
anonymous
2009-04-06 16:05:39 UTC
My parents left because they wanted a better life. But they are planning to return to Ukrainian soon. I like it in the states though, so I'm not planning to go with them. However in a few years I am going to be moving to Germany, but it will not be so I can be closer to my parents. When I do go to Germany it will be for school, and so maybe I can get my life together.



oh gosh I just read this, and the way I worded things looks horrible. i live in the US for 11 years already, my English should be better. lol


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