Question:
The Jewish involvement in the transatlantic slave trade: Why is it never mentioned?
anonymous
2012-11-13 08:03:09 UTC
Jews were pretty much the head honcho of the African slave trade,
for example In 1820 over 75% of all Jewish families in Charleston,
Richmond, and Savannah owned slaves. Almost 40% of all Jewish
householders in the United States owned one slave or more.” In the
South, which had a much higher ratio of slave ownership than the North,
only 5% of white people owned slaves ...yet we are lead to believe it was
the complete opposite. People usually bring up White People and their
involvement, the African Kings whom naive and blindly started this catastrophe
in the first place ...BUT what about the Jews and their wickedness in all of this?
Society is non the wiser of their involvement, my question is Why?
http://thebilzerianreport.com/why-do-so-many-jews-hate-black-people/
Ten answers:
?
2012-11-13 08:34:42 UTC
You also forgot to add that they also funded the transatlantic slave trade (they were the bankers at the time) and in theory had it not been their willingness to crop up the cash the slave trade may have never happened..
anonymous
2016-08-03 06:14:58 UTC
Typically the slave alternate went like this. A Black African tribe would raid a neighboring village and raise off children and young adults. Then they might sell them to Arab Muslims who introduced them to African Ports. There they'd be bought to White Christians who shipped them to the new World and promote them to other White Christians. At the same time i am sure that somewhere in there was an occational Jew, they were a trifling a part of the transactions. There is a very exciting article on Wiki you could prefer to learn. Now not one mention of the word Jew. There are three sorts of lack of awareness. I have the primary two kinds on one of a kind topics. That's comprehensible, as we can't comprehend the whole lot. The 1/3 is duplicitous and should no longer be tolerated. 1. Having certainly not been exposed to the knowledge. For instance, I have no idea methods to communicate Urdu. I have never had the possibility to gain knowledge of it. 2. Having the opportunity but now not taking it. For example, I don't speak Italian. I might have realized it in institution, but chose to not. Three. Faking lack of skills. Once I do not know whatever, I admit it. However, I normally don't fake to not recognize whatever I do recognize. For example, i would not ever ask your questions. I do know that the Jews weren't a foremost a part of the slave exchange. To faux or else is a form of lie. Which is your lack of knowledge?
?
2012-11-13 11:54:29 UTC
As always you try to prove your point with a website that's not reliable and then when someone proves you wrong with CREDIBLE sources you revert back to acting like a child, with petty insults and false statement. I've seen you do this before with your obsession in attempting to "prove" the race (as if they were a homogenous culture) of the ancient egyptians with remedial points, all while completely ignoring the abundance of scholarly report.



@feivel ....of course he doesnt have the names of the books of the men he mentioned bc the only reason he knew about them in the first place is bc they are mentioned in the bogus article he posted as "proof" lol..... he named these two people bc they are the only people he could name bc they are the only two jewish writers mentioned in the article lol. In fact everything he mentioned was taken directly out of the bogus article, he brought nothing new to the table.
?
2012-11-13 10:19:31 UTC
Mark S, JPAA said it all.
?
2012-11-13 10:01:39 UTC
You use the name of one of the most famous Jews of all time but seem to be angry with them..anyhow most of the Jews we see now and then were converts...plain old whites who wanted the tradition..worked with a white guy who became of Jew..loved the history and rituals..ala Sammy Davis Jr.
?
2012-11-13 09:11:07 UTC
finally you messed and said something stupid . i've been waiting to pick on you for picking on me about"rape blood" and todays the day "Einstein" the first user pretty much said everything i wanted to say , but the jews barely had anything to do with the slave trade. it was the spaniards, and the africans who sold their people.
Feivel
2012-11-13 09:04:26 UTC
ROFL. Mark S provided you books that talk about this and even gave you their ISBN numbers. What do you want him to do, spoon feed it to you? He provided you the tools to study this on your own but I suppose because he provided sources that contradict what you have to say and what you WANT to believe, that is nothing. Yeah...that is some research you are doing there all right (insert sarcasm here)



It comes down to not what a person believes but what the historical facts are. Were there Jews involved in the slave trade. Probably. Were we responsible for it and running the show? No.



The link you provided is a site run by a professional poker player and son of a very wealthy stock market manipulator and who talks about the hypocrisy of the USA but oddly enough, he himself seems to have fled to Nevis and St Kitts and renounced his American citizenship. Oh yeah, clearly your link is non-biased (insert extreme sarcasm here)



Do yourself a favor, stay in school. You need it.



EDIT

Jewish writers who boast of it? Links? Sources? Please do share with us. If you are right, then we want to see the proof (a site by an anti-American poker player is not proof)



Mark gave you names of books and authors.........even ISBN numbers (and some page numbers) How about you do the same rather than just throw some names. Names of books etc etc. Let's try that. Why are you accusing Mark of being defensive but unable to see that you yourself are. You are being defensive against his answer. You not only seem to understand what research is but you also do not seem to understand hypocrisy either.



What about African involvement in the slave trade?



http://americancivilwar.com/authors/black_slaveowners.htm



http://elliotlakenews.wordpress.com/2011/01/27/blacks-owning-black-slaves/



http://cofcc.org/2012/03/americas-first-slave-owner-was-a-black-man/



All of those links talk about it but clearly, they all have an agenda. However, you might like to read Black Slaveowners: Free Black Slave Masters in South Carolina, 1790-1860 by Larry Kroger.



EDIT

I did ask. I asked for the names of the books and the names of the authors. However, if you want to say we were in the slave trade fine.....it appears freed blacks were right there with us if we were (or is just that your links are good and ours are not?)



EDIT

I see, so we are all defensive and you are not? Of course I can read. I read your question and Mark's answer and am finding your reaction to it amusing. I was just sitting here waiting for someone and now am having some fun with this. Again, as I said, you provided authors names. Great. How about names of the books. You don't seem able to do that. Is there a reason for this? Have you not read the books? Do you not have that information available? Mark even gave you page numbers to find information. Surely even you know that throwing out authors names is not quite the same as providing the names, book titles, ISBN numbers and even page numbers. Surely.



I am backed into no corner. I am sorry you think so.



We get it. You don't like Jews. Ok. Are we supposed to care what you think?



As I said, I am sure there were some Jews in the slave trade but to say we were running it or were the chief operators of it is assinine and that is clearly what you are trying to imply. I am not shifting blame. You stated something, Mark provided you information that you wrote off as "nothing" and then threw names of some authors saying "here you go" (more or less) and somehow that is to be "proof".



Your question is "The Jewish involvement in the transatlantic slave trade: Why is it never mentioned?" but then you say Jews did mention it and wrote about it in books so you rather invalidated your own question, don't you think? It appears your goal was to try to start something and Mark squashed that.



So if, by your own statement, Jews are writing about Jewish involvement in the slave trade, then we are mentioning it. Tell me if this is going over your head. LOL
anonymous
2012-11-13 08:16:48 UTC
but what about the hebrews who were enslaved by the black eygptains
Mark S, JPAA
2012-11-13 08:15:25 UTC
Because your "facts" are all a load of bull****. Just because you provide a link doesn't mean it's true, brainboy. Several *****scholarly***** works have been published demonstrating that Jews did not dominate the slave trade in Medieval Europe, Africa, and/or the Americas, and that Jews had no major or continuing impact on the history of New World slavery. They possessed far fewer slaves than non-Jews in every British territory in North America and the Caribbean, and in no period did they play a leading role as financiers, shipowners, or factors in the transatlantic or Caribbean slave trades.



"Nor were Jews prominent in the slave trade." - Marvin Perry, Frederick M. Schweitzer: Antisemitism: Myth and Hate from Antiquity to the Present. Palgrave Macmillan, 2002. ISBN 0-312-16561-7. p.245



"In no period did Jews play a leading role as financiers, shipowners, or factors in the transatlantic or Caribbean slave trades. They possessed far fewer slaves than non-Jews in every British territory in North America and the Caribbean. Even when Jews in a handful of places owned slaves in proportions slightly above their representation among a town's families, such cases do not come close to corroborating the assertions of The Secret Relationship." - Wim Klooster (University of Southern Maine): Review of Jews, Slaves, and the Slave Trade: Setting the Record Straight. By Eli Faber.



"Medieval Christians greatly exaggerated the supposed Jewish control over trade and finance and also became obsessed with alleged Jewish plots to enslave, convert, or sell non-Jews... Most European Jews lived in poor communities on the margins of Christian society; they continued to suffer most of the legal disabilities associated with slavery. ... Whatever Jewish refugees from Brazil may have contributed to the northwestward expansion of sugar and slaves, it is clear that Jews had no major or continuing impact on the history of New World slavery." - Professor David Brion Davis of Yale University in Slavery and Human Progress (New York: Oxford Univ. Press, 1984), p.89



"[When] we compare the number of vessels employed in the traffic by all merchants with the number sent to the African coast by Jewish traders ... we can see that the Jewish participation was minimal. It may be safely assumed that over a period of years American Jewish businessmen were accountable for considerably less than two percent of the slave imports into the West Indies" - Professor Jacob R. Marcus of Hebrew Union College in The Colonial American Jew (Detroit: Wayne State Univ. Press, 1970), Vol. 2, pp. 702-703



"None of the major slave-traders was Jewish, nor did Jews constitute a large proportion in any particular community. ... probably all of the Jewish slave-traders in all of the Southern cities and towns combined did not buy and sell as many slaves as did the firm of Franklin and Armfield, the largest Negro traders in the South." - Bertram W. Korn, Jews and Negro Slavery in the Old South, 1789-1865, in The Jewish Experience in America, ed. Abraham J. Karp (Waltham, Massachusetts: American Jewish Historical Society, 1969), Vol. 3, pp. 197-198



"[There were] Jewish owners of plantations, but altogether they constituted only a tiny proportion of the Southerners whose habits, opinions, and status were to become decisive for the entire section, and eventually for the entire country. ... [Only one Jew] tried his hand as a plantation overseer even if only for a brief time." - Bertram W. Korn, Jews and Negro Slavery in the Old South, 1789-1865, in The Jewish Experience in America, ed. Abraham J. Karp (Waltham, Massachusetts: American Jewish Historical Society, 1969), Vol. 3, p. 180.





And many more. It's so easy to dispose of you pathetic losers with the facts.



[edit] Actually I *did* dispose of your "facts". Your problem is that your brain could find shade behind a pea.





[edit] Umm, you don't have any such writers. Feel free to send me an e-mail with proof--and I mean peer-reviewed books/articles, not something "reported" out of a neo-Nazi rag. Go ahead. I'm waiting.
Kevin7
2012-11-13 08:07:18 UTC
Very few Jews were involved in the slave trade,most Jews did not even come to America until the 1890s (the mass migration of East European Jews to America).Many more Christians and Muslims were involved in the slave trade


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