Question:
Jewish thoughts, please (and others, if you have any opinion on this)?
anonymous
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
Jewish thoughts, please (and others, if you have any opinion on this)?
Sixteen answers:
plushy_bear
2009-03-23 18:41:47 UTC
I am appalled and e-mailed Amazon to let them know that since I AM a regular customer (including Kindle), I find that this type of nonsense has absolutely no place ON Amazon's site.



For those who say "take a joke", there is a big difference between being able to take a joke and being offensive. How about display a black person (a la Jolson) with comments about being shiftless and lazy - think it's still a joke?



It's not a joke.





Edit to Yuna - What the fck are you on about? I have not known ANY Jew to do something as disgusting as that. That must be some great meds you're supposed to be on!

On the other hand, I have seen a few Jewish cemeteries desecrated and swastikas painted on some of the remaining gravestones. Care to get involved in protesting THAT?
anonymous
2009-03-24 14:29:38 UTC
Miz Rahi:

I have to agree with you; I'm pretty liberal when it comes to 'ethnic' humor, but that piece of trash is not just offensive, it is without a semblance of humor. And to make an innocent child the 'carrier' of that piece of anti-Semitic garbage is unconscionable!!! As to the brain-dead 'As**ole who complained about Jews being overly sensitive, perhaps he needs to do a little research on the Holocaust.....and see how much humor there was in THAT!!!



Don't know about anyone else, but I intend to write Amazon and point up the mindless stupidity of promoting such garbage.



Yuna:

It was your sort of smug 'what's the big deal' bullshite, among pre-Holocaust Germans...who thought the early 'signals' like signs on parks that read: "Jews and dogs not permitted"...were hilariously funny....that gave Hitler his first reassurance that his beloved Deutsch-volk were behind him ALLTHE WAY!!!! Your attitude is as disgusting as the nauseating baby item.



And NO I am not Jewish...I'm an ex-Christian who left after reading the Bible, with it's New Testament grounding in Antisemitism.
Cher and Cher alike
2009-03-24 03:08:52 UTC
Gross. Here's the comment I added to the item, for the dimwits here who think it's "just a joke."



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"That's hateful stereotyping being sold by Amazon itself. Now if it was a nasty n-word insult, would it be more obvious?



Jews have DIED over this stereotype & not very long ago. I know people punched & kicked over who grew up in the U.S.. One with a permanent facial scar. " (And I do mean throwing a penny, egging them to pick it up with hate statements like these, then punching & kicking them. Jews & money lies DID fuel the Holocaust.)



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Thank you Friendly Accountant for all the how-tos. I will be following up & forwarding this to people. I am also saving this question to harddrive for when YA deletes it.



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I'm not sure there was intent there. However, I'd like to see Amazon do more than remove it. I'd like to see an open letter to the Jewish community apologizing for not be quick enough to vet their own site. It's been a few times now it's required the customer's & often not just Jewish, to pressure them.



Bluto

Lucky for you, you haven't experienced this kind of thing first hand so you are unexperienced in it. Read my comments.



Yuma

Jews don't hate Christians & have NO motivation to spit on anything. Haters of Jews do have motivation to spread these kinds of lies. They crop up from time to time, like false email chain letters.
anonymous
2009-03-24 13:27:45 UTC
I'm not buying anything else from Amazon until they remove that, and I'm telling everyone else I know who shops there about this. I'm wondering would they have such insulting trash about gay people or disabled people or any other minority group?



That's my opinion as a Christian and a consumer and a human being!



Add--Well, the naughty Native American costume answered my question about whether they do this to other groups. Something else I'll be writing to Amazon about.
wotsnext
2009-03-24 15:59:15 UTC
It's not funny. It is shocking. It doesn't appear to be in Amazon UK, otherwise I would write. You are right to complain.



I hate the idea of using children's clothes as billboards for slogans even when the words are apparently innocent, and wish the trend would stop.



The answer is not to buy this stuff and let the supplier know why.



Thank you for letting us know, this kind of anti-semitism should be quickly stopped.
jd
2009-03-24 18:49:26 UTC
I would let them know why I was never going to shop with them again and sell my stock.

There are others just as good. I don't know if they are any less willing to stock what will sell though.

It would probably do you more good to walk thru Barnes and Nobles or whatever than sitting there shopping on line anyway.
anonymous
2009-03-23 19:33:56 UTC
usually against boycotts & most seem to be directed to Israel & Jews..

But this is disgusting & writing to amazon for sure!! Was a regular customer but no longer!!!



Guess amazon has joined the anti-semites,so s....w them..



Iame,orthodox Jew
L'Chaim!
2009-03-23 19:54:15 UTC
Ew...that's disgusting! I would never advertise a stereotype by putting that rag on my babies! I'm calling and complaining about that!
anonymous
2009-03-24 16:28:06 UTC
I support free speech. That includes the right to say and do rude things.



I am against censorship. If I was to boycott every business that sold something that I personally did not think was funny or that promoted ignorant stereotypes then I would have an awful lot of trouble shopping.



No, it is not really that funny, but you only notice it because you take personal offense to it, then you allow yourself to be blind to any other rude (baby) stuff makes fun of OTHER stereotypes because you are not PERSONALLY offended.

Get over it. Get over yourself. I can think of far ruder antisemitic things to dress a baby in and I STILL support the free speech to do it (even if I do not think it is funny).



EDIT: What a bunch of butt hurt, thin skinned ninnies. If you take so much offense at such a mild bit of "racist" humor then you must spend an awful lot of time unhappy.



"[considering how much money most Jews spend on books.... this might be one area in which we do have influence. ;-) ]"

Oh yeah, that is not stereotyping. You cannot have it both ways without looking like a hypocrite.
anonymous
2009-03-23 10:59:28 UTC
MizRahi,



I'm on it. That's just so.... I don't even know what to call that.



Funny, I suddenly feel like emptying that shopping cart I've got going right now... kind of seems pointless to order the works of Maimonedes from a bunch of anti-Semites!



EDIT: I've already added a "customer review" of the product stating my disappointment in Amazon. I suggest others do the same.



EDIT2: I'm actually on hold w/ a customer service "manager" right now. I'm seething w/ anger, I have to admit.



EDIT3: There are actually 24 items of that nature, 21 in apparel, 3 in the baby section. I have filed a request for removal of these items and the manager is nice enough to put the request in for all 24 items. The manager's name is "Serge V." if anyone wants that information.



I urge others to follow suit, reporting by e-mail, phone calls, product reviews, etc. I have a feeling this will be pulled shortly.



CONTACT INFO: http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=cm_r8n_hmd_contact?ie=UTF8&nodeId=518316



Start at this url and click from there. I used the contact by phone option and I've already received a customer satisfaction e-mail. Be ready to provide the product number half-way down the page.
anonymous
2009-03-23 18:10:20 UTC
That it just wrong. How could anyone put that out and how can they allow it? I dont think anyone wants to buy an anti semetic shirt for their babies, I think the guy who putt that shirt on the just wants to piss jews off. How immature.
kismet
2009-03-23 18:04:51 UTC
I find this highly offensive!

Each month I spend a great deal of money on Amazon, and I plan to:

1) Discontinue my Amazon shopping habit,

2) Write them in order to complain, and

3) Tell my friends to do the same.
✡mama pajama✡
2009-03-23 19:24:05 UTC
I have not done business with Amazon for several years. They sell many things that promote antisemitism while doing so under their right of "free speech". Well, we are just as FREE not to support any company that makes a PROFIT off of the dissemination of Jew hate.



Read their justification for selling things like the Protocls of the Elders of Zion and if you agree with me that every responsible company as well as individual has a CHOICE of whether or not earn a living or help others earth a living by promoting bigotry or if you believe in eschewing such hatreds..then you will join me in not using Amazon. They DO have a legal right to make money off of the promotion of hate in a country that allows free speech and WE ALSO have a legal right to NOT support them in their choice to do so.



While Amazon has also sometimes removed some books promoting rabid hate from it's site ONLY under extended pressure from organizations to do so, and removed links to sites that were openly promoting violence and death to Jews, the fact that they have ONLY done such things because of OUTSIDE pressure and bad publicity, makes their business ethics very questionable IMHO and I choose to eschew doing business with a company that has for more than a DECADE been selling overtly antisemitic materials.





EDIT: My "smoking gun" was going to be a link to a page of a rabidly antisemitic nature that showed that it had a link to the sale of a book whose Amazon's profits helped to fund them..proceeds of the sale at Amazon were donated to them...however I kept getting an error message for the link I once had saved, and a search discovered WHY...the antisemitic web site has been removed..here is a news item I discovered..I don't know if the book is still being sold at Amazon or if the proceeds still fund the group..but it is just a pattern I don't care to support.

http://www.care2.com/news/member/385955685/1084275



.EDIT: Thanks to the ravings of an antisemite here under this q, my memory was jogged as to the NAME of the book that was linked to the hate site that was banned ..in the linked article above..THIS is the book that the sales at Amazon had part of the proceeds going to fund a hate site!



"@Plushy: I refer you to Michael Hoffman's Judaism Discovered. That book was banned from amazon due to the actions of a rabbi. Quite ironic, yes...?"



It wasn't just Rabbis speaking out against the rabid hate in that book OR against it's sale at Amazon but ALL decent Jews, Christians and other people of conscience and morality. I first learned of it and of the hate site from a Catholic who was outraged at the hate being spread in the name of her religion.



I had protested against the sale of that book there, too. This is yet another example of Amazon only doing the right thing AFTER outrage is expressed. That's still enough reason for me to shop elsewhere UNTIL I stop seeing such hate sold there in the first place.



Let the hate sites sell the hate books.



edit: Thank you Kanien for pointing out that Amazon has a pattern of catering to bigotry for a profit.



To those who appear to be chastizing the FREEDOM that we have to not support the promotion of bigotry by refraining from giving them our hard earned money as a form of censorship or removal of free speech, I respectfully suggest you learn the difference between the excercise of our civil rights and the supression of those freedoms. That agrument here is woefully misdirected.



You are free to support the promotion of bigotry if you choose, I am free to speak out against it.



It's also ironic that the two peoples here who are the brunt of the bigotry ( the First Nations Native Americans and the Jewish people) are also known for our 'stereotypical' great biting wit and self-depreciatory humor. Using the argument that the targets of mean-spirited promotion of bigotry don't have a sense of humor to find those things funny sounds more like an attempt to justify condoning the hate than an actual commentary on the level of capacity to appreciate humor. Another failure.
Ebony Goddess
2009-03-23 18:42:42 UTC
Insulting, repulsive, reprehensible!!!



Call them out and report it!!!
The angels have the phone box.
2009-03-23 18:26:46 UTC
That's not funny, it's not insider humour, it's not cute. There's no point to it whatsoever except to insult.



[considering how much money most Jews spend on books.... this might be one area in which we do have influence. ;-) ]
Avocado
2009-03-23 18:00:42 UTC
Not funny, should be removed from Amazon.


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