Question:
black people and homosexuals?
☆ReRe★
2008-05-27 23:03:26 UTC
i was wondering how black people feel about the comparison of the struggles and discrimination of homosexuals to the struggles and discrimination of black people.
do yall feel its the same thing....because i really dont see how it is. I know gay people get discriminated agaist.....but i dont think it's as bad as the struggles black people have been through.
thoughts on that please
Eighteen answers:
anonymous
2008-05-27 23:56:33 UTC
I don't think so at ALL because no one can tell a gay person from a straight person. But being black, if people are racist all they have to do is look at you and they are ready to hate and discriminate. The black struggle was a struggle of a whole people and it is pure discrimination because we are all the same; human. But discrimination against gays is based on difference of belief, religion etc....and is more associated with being a lifestyle CHOICE rather than something one cannot help (skin colour, for example). [But I must cover myself and say that some gays are born in the body of the opposite sex and can't help it or whatever blah blah]. To sum up, black people were treated as second class citizens simply because of their skin colour and it took the heroism of individuals such as MLK, Rosa Parks, Malcom X, and the masses to fight for their human rights and I think it would be insulting to that struggle and to those people to even compare it with the 'gay struggle.' Especially since gays are free to express their homosexuality in most mediums and aren't oppressed as much as African Americans were during slavery etc. The atrocities that occured and still occur to people of colour just simply cannot be juxtaposed to the situation of homosexuals who are only targeted by a minority anyway- the oppression of a people and random gay bashings cannot be compared.
bayouchipette
2008-05-27 23:24:44 UTC
I feel as though homosexuals are experiencing more struggles than are blacks, in this day and age. Probably because gay people weren't vocal about their sexuality much so many years ago, so it wasn't so out in the open. I think that society's acceptance of gay people is improving though. And yes, I think that black people have had many struggles and obstacles to overcome in the past, but it is time to stop using it as an excuse for sympathy. Not every black person experiences discrimination, just as not every white person has discriminated against blacks! It's time for people of all colors, races, sex, and sexual orientation to stop feeling sorry for themselves because of what their ancestors had to go through. There are famous and influential homosexuals, women, men, whites, blacks, etc., and it is because they fought for what they wanted and didn't feel sorry for themselves. Also, yes I've heard of the Sean Bell case - very tragic. However, I've also heard of white people being killed by blacks, but it doesn't seem to encourage Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton to get involved. And yes, there were signs for just blacks, back of the bus, etc., 30 YEARS AGO! It's over! I wish that people would stop bringing up the "back of the bus" and and the "labeled" water fountains! It was horrible that it happened, but it's not happening now! It's time for everyone to move on and focus on the future! However, I'm not trying to say this against you, the questioner. Your question is a good one, and good for you for wanting to know the thoughts and feelings of others! :)
radish
2008-05-27 23:51:33 UTC
discrimination doesn't operate so much on an arithmetic level as in 'is A worse than B?', but at multiple, compounded levels. Social and economic equality is usually compounded for those of us who experience it : with the worst forms for those of us who are 'othered' by some mixture of sexuality/gender/class/ethnic/age/body shape biases from the self-defined 'normals'. So having a competitive 'I am a more victimised person than you' approach is probably not so useful as fighting together against these divisive attitudes and practices. Sojourner Truth and W.E. Dubois were telling us this over a century ago. Great people, great words.
Rainy
2008-05-28 05:07:09 UTC
What happens if someone is black and gay, thats got to be hard! I don't know, I think A.A.s have been discriminated more than white gays but then again I don't know, just looking back on history with slavery, jim crow etc., Oscar wilde was gay and he wasn't discriminated against....
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2016-09-07 09:13:57 UTC
Puh-hire, heterosexuality's the only shoved down all people's throat 24/7. It makes me wonder whether heterosexuality's simply a synthetic Judeo-Christian ruse that shames individuals for exploring their sexuality beneath the chance of social exile entirely for the sake of senseless copy.
Dixie Echo
2008-05-28 00:06:11 UTC
I think gay people probably have been through more discrimination than black folks born post-1980. Before then, yeah, the former has the latter beat....but, then again, the latter didn't really come out back then to get discriminated against. I don't think modern generation black folks truly identify with the struggles of their elders or ancestors, while modern generation gay kids still get beat down every day on their way home from school (hell - often by black kids).
41
2008-05-27 23:44:01 UTC
more of a lack of social acceptance then a denial of civil rights



You cannot compare the two. Doing that is just propaganda by the gay associations, designed to grab attention for their cause, good marketing huh? Its not a matter of comparing struggles either, its just desrespectful to compare the two. Despite popular demand you are gay because you choose to be, I choose to like woman, its how I was conditioned. Besides unless you got on Elton John wear, or are acting inappropriately flamboyant- I cant say him, right there he is the gay one. Can't hide your color, especially from a cop it seems. Gay people can't get married, black people were regarded as property, denied all basic human rights- seems even right? I see they didn't compare it to womens right's or to the pilgrims seeking freedom from religious persecution and free thought or the Jewish people's plight. i understand that you want to get married and be unhappy like the rest of the 50% of marriages that end in divorce but its not fair and disrespectful to call it a struggle for civil rights- maybe the struggle for a civil right. Being beat up or teased or killed does not legitimize your right to claim a civil rights movement, how do you explain: uncool kids, poor people, gang members. We would all be extra mad if a gang decided to launch a campaign for civil rights because they couldnt wear blue, everyone else can wear blue, or if felons organized to regain their right to bare arms. People are ignorant, you can not accept or like someone's actions and not hate harm or kill them. They should be treated equally but thats more of a lack of social acceptance then a denial of civil rights. In novemeber if I showed up with a pink t-shirt tied in a knot with low rise jeans and diamonds in my glasses they are still gonna let me vote right? Their campaign did as it was designed to, gained attention for their cause. In marketing the stronger the response the better. Great job.
anonymous
2008-05-27 23:23:12 UTC
it's definitely not the same, i agree



that's the problem with society's comparisons. while two things may be slightly similar, they're way more different than similar.



well, unless you're talking about hitler and homosexuals in which case i think the struggles are pretty even
random name here
2008-05-27 23:09:44 UTC
I think your question is going to insult alot of people. Everyone has struggles no individual race/sexuality had/has it worse. There are black people who were tortured and killed because of their skin color. and that is a horrible thing. But you need to realize, that alot of homosexuals have also been tortured and killed. All because of who they love. None of this should be allowed in the world today. We should stand up against all of it. Everyone should be equal. It is not right to judge which type of person has had it harder. We have all had our struggles, no matter how different.
anonymous
2008-05-27 23:08:24 UTC
Not in Australia they don't black people or colored such as myself and gay people get on by just easily as everyone else except if your aboriginal but they get paid more for being on Centrelink.
Lillian
2008-05-27 23:06:26 UTC
It may not be the same kind of struggle, but you shouldn't presume that the struggles of homosexuals are lesser or not as difficult as the struggles of any other race. One of my friends was stabbed multiple times, his throat slit and his face kicked in for being gay.



That's pretty bad, wouldn't you agree?
pinkmissmarilyn
2008-05-27 23:13:07 UTC
I agree with Lillian. I think the Homosexual community has seen just as much hate and discrimination. I personally haven't seen nearly as much prejudice against my black friends as I have my gay/lesbian friends. It's a shame that people are ignorant and insensitive enough to be hostile to either though.
anonymous
2008-05-27 23:31:33 UTC
Back in the day Black people had it much worse. But today, the gay people have it worse than Black people, of what I have seen.
anonymous
2008-05-28 07:55:18 UTC
a lot of races were slaves! they just GOT OVER IT.it was the PAST



and are you just looking for a group of people to say "i'm better than you?" cause you are not



look at the jews...come on stop using your race card...white people don't care or feel bad.its the PAST we all have one.





gays have people who don't like them too...but i don't hear as many say "its cause i'm gay!" they rise above.so no ya don't have it more rough!!!!!!!!!
SlipKnoT D
2008-05-27 23:19:01 UTC
what struggle? let me know when a gay man gets shot 50 times in the face by the police. fug outta here
anonymous
2008-05-27 23:06:46 UTC
I don't think it is the same, because let's face it, black people are human beings, but gay people are queer.
shabong
2008-05-27 23:06:55 UTC
are you racists against black man
shawneebear
2008-05-27 23:06:43 UTC
No I don't think it's the same.


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